Tolkien was uncomfortable with Orcs being irredeemably evil. So in theory it was possible for them to forsake their evil ways. However, they were more susceptible than Elves or Men to fall into evil.
Ever think that if you could sit down and have a 1-on-1 discussion with Tolkien you might actually plant an idea in his head for him to write? I kinda wish he would have made the orcs be nothing more than animals that had an uncanny semblance to sentient life.
Actually, as I have said before, Mr. Tolkien told of peaceful groups of Orcs, whom had nothing to do with Sauron. And the Orcs working for Sauron were slaves and didn't want to, except the odd ones out in every group. Peter Jackson's Orcs are not what Orcs are like at all, seeming to enjoy killing, bloodthirsty brutes. "Where there's a whip" (1980) is literally Orcs singing about how much they hate war and slave drivers. "Leave tomorrow till it comes" shows peaceful Orcs not with Sauron's army.
Well it is certain that orcs were once men and elves. Orcs are only fell variantions of those. IT doesn't mean that their fate is bounded to the darkness completly. Also most orcs especially Snaga race hated their existence and they were willing to Die. Orcs in mamy cases are not diffrent then men.
Surely there were some WHO could fight with forces of evil but most of orcs WHO hated dark powers were just hidding as outcasts, because they didn't Had courage to opose darkness.
Theoretically, an Orc could repent or be raised to be good, but Tolkien affirmed that it would be very difficult to overcome their cultural programming and the warping that Melkor and Sauron inflicted upon them. The worst of their qualities might have eventually been bred out of them in the centuries following the War of the Ring.
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Tolkien was uncomfortable with Orcs being irredeemably evil. So in theory it was possible for them to forsake their evil ways. However, they were more susceptible than Elves or Men to fall into evil.
Ever think that if you could sit down and have a 1-on-1 discussion with Tolkien you might actually plant an idea in his head for him to write? I kinda wish he would have made the orcs be nothing more than animals that had an uncanny semblance to sentient life.
Actually, as I have said before, Mr. Tolkien told of peaceful groups of Orcs, whom had nothing to do with Sauron. And the Orcs working for Sauron were slaves and didn't want to, except the odd ones out in every group. Peter Jackson's Orcs are not what Orcs are like at all, seeming to enjoy killing, bloodthirsty brutes. "Where there's a whip" (1980) is literally Orcs singing about how much they hate war and slave drivers. "Leave tomorrow till it comes" shows peaceful Orcs not with Sauron's army.
Well it is certain that orcs were once men and elves. Orcs are only fell variantions of those. IT doesn't mean that their fate is bounded to the darkness completly. Also most orcs especially Snaga race hated their existence and they were willing to Die. Orcs in mamy cases are not diffrent then men.
Surely there were some WHO could fight with forces of evil but most of orcs WHO hated dark powers were just hidding as outcasts, because they didn't Had courage to opose darkness.
Theoretically, an Orc could repent or be raised to be good, but Tolkien affirmed that it would be very difficult to overcome their cultural programming and the warping that Melkor and Sauron inflicted upon them. The worst of their qualities might have eventually been bred out of them in the centuries following the War of the Ring.
it can happen if we tell the orc the turf about them.